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  Diversity is White Genocide

  by corrie54 in

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  asia for the asians, africa for the africans, white countries for everybody!.

  everybody says there is this race problem.

  everybody says this race problem will be solved when the third world pours into every white country and only into white countries.. the netherlands and belgium are just as crowded as japan or taiwan, but nobody says japan or taiwan will solve this race problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.. everybody says the final solution to this race problem is for every white country and only white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.. what if i said there was this race problem and this race problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into every black country and only into black countries?.

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  Their skin colour is irrelevant and doesn't need mentioning, what's wrong with saying immigrants? You know full well that mentioning the skin colour makes it seem relevant, which we know it isn't. It's just race-baiting.

  When Europeans migrated to America in the last millennium, I'd imagine the indigenous people had exactly the same complaints. People who move into a new area are almost always hated by those who already live there, it's a natural consequence of fear and tribalism.

  The problem with immigration is a lack of integration. And this cuts both ways. Immigrants often fail to integrate fully, which leads to issues, but there is likewise often a failure on the part of the natives to be all that welcoming and hospitable, which doesn't exactly give much incentive to integrate. The problems stemming from immigration are just as much the fault of the natives as they are the fault of the immigrants. Learning to accept this makes life a lot more peaceful and will allow the issues to be solved a lot more quickly and smoothly.

  When immigrants see threads like this, you can't exactly blame them for not wanting to integrate. How would you feel if the boot was on the other foot?
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  Did Jesus exist? Probably not

  by The 12 Apostates in

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  threads about this have been made before, but none have been made for a few years.

  i was very much on the fence with this one, i never really cared.

  but i became curious recently, having had a few interactions with street preachers.

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  Jesus of Nazereth was a later label, so that isn't necessarily the case, we don't know what his/their name/names was/were.

  As for the convolution, that alone doesn't prove anything, it's purely circumstantial evidence. Sometimes people write convoluted narratives in order to create a more interesting story, for instance.

  The origin of Moses was an unnecessarily complex set of events as well, but no self-respecting scholar would suggest that Moses was a real person.
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  Diversity is White Genocide

  by corrie54 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  asia for the asians, africa for the africans, white countries for everybody!.

  everybody says there is this race problem.

  everybody says this race problem will be solved when the third world pours into every white country and only into white countries.. the netherlands and belgium are just as crowded as japan or taiwan, but nobody says japan or taiwan will solve this race problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.. everybody says the final solution to this race problem is for every white country and only white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.. what if i said there was this race problem and this race problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into every black country and only into black countries?.

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  these newer immigrants (both legal and illegal) have changed the place for the worse. There is definitely more crime and it is dirtier and more expensive.

  Post hoc ergo propter hoc.

  all White Western countries are affected for the worse because of the influx of huge numbers of all these non-White people

  Yeah, not racist at all.
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  Diversity is White Genocide

  by corrie54 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  asia for the asians, africa for the africans, white countries for everybody!.

  everybody says there is this race problem.

  everybody says this race problem will be solved when the third world pours into every white country and only into white countries.. the netherlands and belgium are just as crowded as japan or taiwan, but nobody says japan or taiwan will solve this race problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.. everybody says the final solution to this race problem is for every white country and only white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.. what if i said there was this race problem and this race problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into every black country and only into black countries?.

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  I've already expressed my thoughts earlier in the thread. At this point all I can add is that this is a load of hysteria over nothing. Let's not forget that this thread started as a polemic on 'white genocide'.

  Illegal immigration is a non-issue in comparison to the real problems facing this world, and it's a symptom of many of those problems in and of itself. Solve the real problems, and illegal immigration will no longer be an issue.

  As for the rights of legal migrants, they should have the right to fully integrate, and in fact should be encouraged to do so.
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  Diversity is White Genocide

  by corrie54 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  asia for the asians, africa for the africans, white countries for everybody!.

  everybody says there is this race problem.

  everybody says this race problem will be solved when the third world pours into every white country and only into white countries.. the netherlands and belgium are just as crowded as japan or taiwan, but nobody says japan or taiwan will solve this race problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.. everybody says the final solution to this race problem is for every white country and only white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.. what if i said there was this race problem and this race problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into every black country and only into black countries?.

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  I'm fine with women and black people voting.

  Well thank god it has your blessing, otherwise I don't know where we'd be.
  
  
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  Mt: 24/luke 21 does not have a 2nd fulfillment!

  by nowwhat? in

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  2. beliefs

  the bible clearly says a generation is 40 years (exodus and job) the 1st half of the last century saw wars, famines, pestilence.

  if 1914 was the correct starting date the end should have came by the mid 1950's ( which the witnesses believed at the time) this fact alone proves beyond a shadow of a doubt.

  jesus was only speaking of the events of the 1st century..

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  Matthew references the destruction of Jerusalem. Revelation is an apocalyptic text. It stands to reason that they are about different things. But neither of those things have any kind of greater fulfillment. Arguably Revelation has no real fulfillment at all.
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  Serena not celebrating Valentines Day, like countless others

  by carla in

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  yet another serena williams story about her not celebrating a holiday.

  she claims she is a jw even though most here say she is not because she wasn't baptized.

  someone ought to do a real story on her hypocrisy.

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  I'm sure she 'repented', if you know what I mean $$$.
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  Is this how you saw your Armageddon? I sure did :(

  by Diogenesister in

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  i think most of our imaginations of the new world was probably nothing like the watchtower reality.

  after all, we jws are very good at avoiding uncomfortable truths!

  you can tell micheal jackson was a certain type of jehovahs witness.

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  I was so unclued up on doctrine as a young born-in that I didn't even realise the great tribulation and armageddon were separate events till well after I'd left the religion behind. The absence of any real clarity in the publications didn't help, nor did the lack of internet access on my part.
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  Question how people there....

  by new boy in

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  on the governing body currently?.

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  In all fairness, I don't think I could name a single pre-20th century pope off the top of my head, aside from Saint Peter, and I'm sure I'm not alone in that.
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  Ex-Cardinal McCarrick Defrocked by Pope for CSA

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the pope is making a statement.. https://abcnews.go.com/us/us-cardinal-theodore-mccarrick-defrocked-vatican-sex-abuse/story?id=61017455.

  will the org follow suit, perhaps if forced to?.

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  I doubt it, they're not a big deal like the RCC.